"Indian teepees" - there's nothing worth romanticizing about cultural appropriation of the traditional homes of Native people of the Plains, or of what they were put through during the time of "frontier beginnings" of a nation that destroyed theirs.
don't internalize all the psychosis displayed in troll comments. that's how *they* got started. :D yes, it is clearly '69. first time my family got their ass handed to them in a hurricane. we looked no better than this lot, clothes ripped, half naked crawling out of the mud and looking for Red Cross.
Michelle...please find out HOW they arrive at unemployment percentages and then say that....you are misinformed :( As for the ACA...you are REALLY misinformed. I have not seen anyone...ANYONE...who has bee3n "helped" by the ACA...and I work in health care. Instead I have seen horror stories of, "Oh under the new Obamacare guidelines you can survive without your back surgery. We will just keep you on pain meds the rest of your life." Or how about a 23 yr old patient who ended up in the CCU due to a change in Rx, under the new obamacare guidelines, that was not compatible with her current prescriptions. Her old one was fine...and CORRECT for her. NECESSARY for her. Or my newly married friend wanting to have children but, again, under the new guidelines her pregnancy is not covered. On and on and on.....so ummm no. I can NOT say I have seen the good in Obamacare...especially when the friends I have are ALL experiencing an increase between 2 and four times their typical premiums. Sad...
Hearing Americans fighting against a universal free healthcare system is a bizarre thing. Coming from a country that has one, it is the greatest insurance against crime and poverty there is, and benefits everyone. A country without free healthcare seems so uncivilised.
WHat works for you is great. I am sure there are limits there as well and complaints about your own system. I have heard good and bad things about socialist and universal healthcare...but that is NOT what Obamacare is. Sadly those in poverty and crime are the only ones who truly benefit from this system we have in place. But pay attention to how this one works out over the next few years to see what the true end results will be.I have a feeling you will be disillusioned, No healthcare is free...where does the funding come from? So I am not fighting against a Universal Free Healthcare...because that is NOT what the ACA is...read it. Just...humor me and read it. Read what it affects in taxes, rates and premiums both for you and big companies. However I believe our system is far too gone to repair or even rebuild. It would turn the medical world on its end...which, IMHO needs to happen.
They went on to influence the world! Alot became succesful artists, designers, music and other creative things. I think steve jobs said he was a hippied...it also helped with the general view of america. America was hated by the world vietnam war. Hippes saved america.. Things that influenced other people and changed the world subtle and macro... They were brave enough to do so. And it opened doors and ideas..they were not so stuck or took themelves so seriously..., thats more than I can say about whining and complacent people..excuse me but what have you done lately?
I think that he/she is saying the ppl reacting negatively are trolls. It's a common term for ppl who "troll" threads and make nasty comments just to rile others up. Remember: "Don't feed the trolls!"
I recently read Scrapbook of a Taos Hippie and was intrigued by the notion of community living. There are a lot of knee-jerk reactions to such a lifestyle. Some people have become pampered by modern conveniences ignoring the manufacturing side effects of pollution and waste, not to mention the inefficiency. With better ideas in play, the tiny house movement and improved communication, I wonder if such a lifestyle may be more viable than ever? I'd be willing to look into it. The dirt is genuine. The cities have people who get dirty at work too and I've seen pictures of poor neighborhoods in Kentucky and Mississippi that make all these look glamorous. The rich have gated communities where their friends gather, so what if these folks did too? I think it's great. Many people live in small towns across the U.S. They all know each other. They may not call themselves a commune . . . but they do call themselves a community.
I lived in a cooperative community in the hills below San Francisco from 1971 to 1981. My first son was born at home there, with the aid of local midwives. He was one of a number of kids born there who are all doing great in their own lives, many with their own kids now. The core of the community was a group of non-violent activists from the civil rights, anti-war and draft resistance movements of the sixties. It was a truly wonderful, creative life. The people who left, including me, left to pursue careers. I became a cinematographer in Los Angeles. One member became an attorney, another a family doctor, another a surgeon, another a builder, a few became educators, a few became artists, a few continued as midwives. One owned a bookstore and another became a college history professor. And others are still there. Forty four years later, the community is going strong, with a new group of young people, living and hanging out with the old hippie folk who been in those hills from the beginning. Kinda cool.
Under the ACA, all pregnancies must be covered, whereas prior to the law, pregnancy could be considered a "preexisting condition" and insurance could be denied. Why does your friend think her pregnancy would not be covered? http://www.yourhealthcaresimplified.org/news/obamacare-and-maternity-coverage/
Clearly people don't realize your comment is about the hateful comments of other about these photos. People. SonalIraq is not calling the hippies trolls. Get a clue. A "troll" is someone who spreads their hated thru unnecessary comments over and over again on comment boards.
A few words about The Farm, pics 2, 3, 5, 6, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17,18 - any pregnant woman could come there and have her baby (for free) w a well-known team of midwives who have delivered over 2k babies. This began in pre Roe v Wade days when options were sketchy at best. Plus you could leave the baby w a loving couple and come back for the kid anytime. Also many 3rd world water and health projects were begun, some, like soy dairies in Guatemala, are still functioning. A free ambulance/EMT service was set up in the South Bronx in mid 70s when it was close to a war zone. No Gov't assistance was ever taken. The Farm is still vibrant, just with a less communal economic structure. These pics are from the days of "voluntary peasants" when "all things were held in common."
I knew someone who used to live on one of these communes. He beame a corrupt, womanizing, criminal attorney, who regularly abuses the law, aides and abets his criminal clients, who is a millionaire with his private jet, and a rapist, who gets away with anything because of his position in society, his wealth, and his power. So your romanticization of these people is just as bleeding ridiculous as people being 'biased' (as you call it) against them. I've known other people who like to view themselves as hippies too, who are in fact very exploitative, abusive, and psychopathic. Just because someone lived on a commune or called themself a hippie doesn't make them a good person.
Hippies just wanted to conquer the world, stay stoned and screw around with everything that had a pulse.and that's all.
There wasn't any groovy or clever messages or philospohy hidden. They hated showers and never wiped their hairy arses because wiping yer arse was a corporate thing. Plus they ALL ate meat and had money in the bank. Try to stand the facts!
I was born and raised in SF. We all smoked weed, hung out at Golden Gate park on sundays for the free concerts. I'm 68 now but I still think like I'm 20. These years were my favorite of all. The music was the best. I got to see Jefferson Airplane at Winterland.. Peace out
Funny, I got to have my first check up, complete with full blood panel, in 25 years thanks to the ACA allowing me to now qualify for medi-cal. The only health care I've been able to have since I was no longer covered by my dad's insurance was through Planned Parenthood. The ACA is helping me quite well so far, thanks.
Oh, and btw, my best friend can now finally get the carpal tunnel surgery he's been needing in BOTH wrists for a few years now thanks to the ACA making health insurance affordable for him to get. Works for us.
We grew up. We got University degrees, but most of us have retained our ideals, we're the ones who are still fighting for a Clean Earth, more Solar, less Nuclear. More Love More Peace and much less war
It was a wonderful time to live and we really did change a lot of things. We broke down a lot of class and social barriers. We fought for what was right
I wasn't there, but that sure likes like an improvement to my current cubicled life today. And I switched to an ACA-compliant policy from my grandfathered BCBS policy and am saving $500 / month. That should keep the discussions awake for a while longer.
Pretty neat capture of a period in time ,,, even those children would be in thier 40's or 50's now ,,, it would be nice if all those people could see these photos now ,,, it took guts to reject a lifestyle & attempt a fresh way of life ,,, I think they say the average time that a commune survived was only around a year ,,, the adults in the photos would be my age & older
I feel really sorry for a lot of you who comment - It was an amazing time, I am so glad I was a part of it and I wish you could experience even a little of what we did. (I am not in these pictures and do not know the families pictured)
newflash to quo: I was there - and there definitely WERE some frauds, fake hippies, con-artists, lowlifes, losers/users wannabees and even monsters (see manson) that "infiltrated" the so-called hippie communities back then, especially around and after '67, once the media started reporting and commercializing it - just like there are (e.g.) some psychopathic CEOs and sociopathic "caregivers" today. But especially in the early days ('65-'66) and even after, there were some truly wonderful, creative and interesting people as well. Some things never change.
Geez, this comment section makes a pretty good argument for tossing the computers and going back to the woods. So much mean-spiritedness from the keyboard-warriors-- we clearly could learn a LOT from the folks in these photos
You're an asshole.
ReplyDelete"Indian teepees" - there's nothing worth romanticizing about cultural appropriation of the traditional homes of Native people of the Plains, or of what they were put through during the time of "frontier beginnings" of a nation that destroyed theirs.
ReplyDeleteAnd we got to get ourselves back to the garden
ReplyDeleteI get it sonaliraq. You're referring to "how different people react to the photos".
ReplyDeleteStephan passed away a year or two ago. Ina May still lives in Summer town as far as I know.
ReplyDeletei was 3 and shat that psychedelic bus. angry revenge shit due to cartoon withdrawal.
ReplyDeletedon't internalize all the psychosis displayed in troll comments. that's how *they* got started. :D
ReplyDeleteyes, it is clearly '69. first time my family got their ass handed to them in a hurricane. we looked no better than this lot, clothes ripped, half naked crawling out of the mud and looking for Red Cross.
You should have explained who you mean't by "they".
ReplyDeleteMichelle...please find out HOW they arrive at unemployment percentages and then say that....you are misinformed :( As for the ACA...you are REALLY misinformed. I have not seen anyone...ANYONE...who has bee3n "helped" by the ACA...and I work in health care. Instead I have seen horror stories of, "Oh under the new Obamacare guidelines you can survive without your back surgery. We will just keep you on pain meds the rest of your life." Or how about a 23 yr old patient who ended up in the CCU due to a change in Rx, under the new obamacare guidelines, that was not compatible with her current prescriptions. Her old one was fine...and CORRECT for her. NECESSARY for her. Or my newly married friend wanting to have children but, again, under the new guidelines her pregnancy is not covered. On and on and on.....so ummm no. I can NOT say I have seen the good in Obamacare...especially when the friends I have are ALL experiencing an increase between 2 and four times their typical premiums. Sad...
ReplyDeleteHearing Americans fighting against a universal free healthcare system is a bizarre thing. Coming from a country that has one, it is the greatest insurance against crime and poverty there is, and benefits everyone. A country without free healthcare seems so uncivilised.
ReplyDeleteWHat works for you is great. I am sure there are limits there as well and complaints about your own system. I have heard good and bad things about socialist and universal healthcare...but that is NOT what Obamacare is. Sadly those in poverty and crime are the only ones who truly benefit from this system we have in place. But pay attention to how this one works out over the next few years to see what the true end results will be.I have a feeling you will be disillusioned, No healthcare is free...where does the funding come from? So I am not fighting against a Universal Free Healthcare...because that is NOT what the ACA is...read it. Just...humor me and read it. Read what it affects in taxes, rates and premiums both for you and big companies. However I believe our system is far too gone to repair or even rebuild. It would turn the medical world on its end...which, IMHO needs to happen.
ReplyDeleteThey went on to influence the world! Alot became succesful artists, designers, music and other creative things. I think steve jobs said he was a hippied...it also helped with the general view of america. America was hated by the world vietnam war. Hippes saved america.. Things that influenced other people and changed the world subtle and macro... They were brave enough to do so. And it opened doors and ideas..they were not so stuck or took themelves so seriously..., thats more than I can say about whining and complacent people..excuse me but what have you done lately?
ReplyDeleteI think that he/she is saying the ppl reacting negatively are trolls. It's a common term for ppl who "troll" threads and make nasty comments just to rile others up. Remember: "Don't feed the trolls!"
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ReplyDeleteI recently read Scrapbook of a Taos Hippie and was intrigued by the notion of community living. There are a lot of knee-jerk reactions to such a lifestyle. Some people have become pampered by modern conveniences ignoring the manufacturing side effects of pollution and waste, not to mention the inefficiency. With better ideas in play, the tiny house movement and improved communication, I wonder if such a lifestyle may be more viable than ever? I'd be willing to look into it. The dirt is genuine. The cities have people who get dirty at work too and I've seen pictures of poor neighborhoods in Kentucky and Mississippi that make all these look glamorous. The rich have gated communities where their friends gather, so what if these folks did too? I think it's great. Many people live in small towns across the U.S. They all know each other. They may not call themselves a commune . . . but they do call themselves a community.
ReplyDeleteI lived in a cooperative community in the hills below San Francisco from 1971 to 1981. My first son was born at home there, with the aid of local midwives. He was one of a number of kids born there who are all doing great in their own lives, many with their own kids now. The core of the community was a group of non-violent activists from the civil rights, anti-war and draft resistance movements of the sixties. It was a truly wonderful, creative life. The people who left, including me, left to pursue careers. I became a cinematographer in Los Angeles. One member became an attorney, another a family doctor, another a surgeon, another a builder, a few became educators, a few became artists, a few continued as midwives. One owned a bookstore and another became a college history professor. And others are still there. Forty four years later, the community is going strong, with a new group of young people, living and hanging out with the old hippie folk who been in those hills from the beginning. Kinda cool.
ReplyDeleteUnder the ACA, all pregnancies must be covered, whereas prior to the law, pregnancy could be considered a "preexisting condition" and insurance could be denied. Why does your friend think her pregnancy would not be covered? http://www.yourhealthcaresimplified.org/news/obamacare-and-maternity-coverage/
ReplyDeleteClearly people don't realize your comment is about the hateful comments of other about these photos.
ReplyDeletePeople. SonalIraq is not calling the hippies trolls. Get a clue. A "troll" is someone who spreads their hated thru unnecessary comments over and over again on comment boards.
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ReplyDeleteyeah right pal, more measles than disneyland. you know it IS possible to live in a city and not be a walking version of fallout 3?
ReplyDeleteAt least 5 people responded to you without reading the parent comment and therefore thought you were saying the hippies were trolls.
ReplyDeletePeople should read before arguing.
A few words about The Farm, pics 2, 3, 5, 6, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17,18 - any pregnant woman could come there and have her baby (for free) w a well-known team of midwives who have delivered over 2k babies. This began in pre Roe v Wade days when options were sketchy at best. Plus you could leave the baby w a loving couple and come back for the kid anytime. Also many 3rd world water and health projects were begun, some, like soy dairies in Guatemala, are still functioning. A free ambulance/EMT service was set up in the South Bronx in mid 70s when it was close to a war zone. No Gov't assistance was ever taken. The Farm is still vibrant, just with a less communal economic structure. These pics are from the days of "voluntary peasants" when "all things were held in common."
ReplyDeleteMy bad...I thought the point of this trend of comments was to wax superiority to the hippies.
ReplyDeleteThis is . . . . my worst nightmare. *shudderz*
ReplyDeleteI knew someone who used to live on one of these communes. He beame a corrupt, womanizing, criminal attorney, who regularly abuses the law, aides and abets his criminal clients, who is a millionaire with his private jet, and a rapist, who gets away with anything because of his position in society, his wealth, and his power. So your romanticization of these people is just as bleeding ridiculous as people being 'biased' (as you call it) against them. I've known other people who like to view themselves as hippies too, who are in fact very exploitative, abusive, and psychopathic. Just because someone lived on a commune or called themself a hippie doesn't make them a good person.
ReplyDeletefantastic, I have a pic of my "tribe" heading to the wilds of Canada...wonder where I could post it.
ReplyDeleteHippies just wanted to conquer the world, stay stoned and screw around with everything that had a pulse.and that's all.
ReplyDeleteThere wasn't any groovy or clever messages or philospohy hidden. They hated showers and never wiped their hairy arses because wiping yer arse was a corporate thing. Plus they ALL ate meat and had money in the bank. Try to stand the facts!
What if hippies were right from the beginning? All is one
ReplyDeleteI was born and raised in SF. We all smoked weed, hung out at Golden Gate park on sundays for the free concerts. I'm 68 now but I still think like I'm 20. These years were my favorite of all. The music was the best. I got to see Jefferson Airplane at Winterland.. Peace out
ReplyDeleteFunny, I got to have my first check up, complete with full blood panel, in 25 years thanks to the ACA allowing me to now qualify for medi-cal. The only health care I've been able to have since I was no longer covered by my dad's insurance was through Planned Parenthood. The ACA is helping me quite well so far, thanks.
ReplyDeleteOh, and btw, my best friend can now finally get the carpal tunnel surgery he's been needing in BOTH wrists for a few years now thanks to the ACA making health insurance affordable for him to get. Works for us.
ReplyDeleteIt really was and is. We did change the world.
ReplyDeleteWHERE ARE WE NOW?
ReplyDeleteWe grew up. We got University degrees, but most of us have retained our ideals, we're the ones who are still fighting for a Clean Earth, more Solar, less Nuclear. More Love More Peace and much less war
It was a wonderful time to live and we really did change a lot of things. We broke down a lot of class and social barriers. We fought for what was right
ReplyDeleteI wasn't there, but that sure likes like an improvement to my current cubicled life today. And I switched to an ACA-compliant policy from my grandfathered BCBS policy and am saving $500 / month. That should keep the discussions awake for a while longer.
ReplyDeleteBut by now, I'd rather live in a commune by myself.
ReplyDeletePretty neat capture of a period in time ,,, even those children would be in thier 40's or 50's now ,,, it would be nice if all those people could see these photos now ,,, it took guts to reject a lifestyle & attempt a fresh way of life ,,, I think they say the average time that a commune survived was only around a year ,,, the adults in the photos would be my age & older
ReplyDeleteThe seventh photo from top was taken in 97 at the Russian Family Rainbow Gathering on Altai
ReplyDeleteI feel really sorry for a lot of you who comment - It was an amazing time, I am so glad I was a part of it and I wish you could experience even a little of what we did. (I am not in these pictures and do not know the families pictured)
ReplyDeleteStill doing it!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't change it for anything. Often over-romanticized these days by people who weren't there, but that said, it WAS a magical time to be young.
ReplyDeletenewflash to quo: I was there - and there definitely WERE some frauds, fake hippies, con-artists, lowlifes, losers/users wannabees and even monsters (see manson) that "infiltrated" the so-called hippie communities back then, especially around and after '67, once the media started reporting and commercializing it
ReplyDelete- just like there are (e.g.) some psychopathic CEOs and sociopathic "caregivers" today. But especially in the early days ('65-'66) and even after, there were some truly wonderful, creative and interesting people as well. Some things never change.
Like George Carlin often said: " armpits, @$$hole, crotch and teeth!" (but not with the same utensil) =D
ReplyDeleteNo jock drunks, either.
ReplyDeleteThe BEL certainly changed the world!
ReplyDeleteThese pics are amazing. i will share them on my blog here:
ReplyDeletehttp://haber.incehesap.com/teknoloji-rehberi-incehesapcom-1794-haber/
hippies are the beste
ReplyDeleteHe was referring to comments made about the photos, stupid. Do you read? Or just react?
ReplyDeleteLook how many people jumped on the bandwagon to trash this sonaliraq guy. Sheep. You're all just little blind sheep.
Who can't read.
You're the reason we need better funding for education so that more people know how to frikking READ.
ReplyDeleteSo now YOU are the troll.
Damned hippy communists (now a$ Gravy $ucking Pig$) are in political power now and people wonder why things are so utterly f*cked up!
ReplyDeleteGeez, this comment section makes a pretty good argument for tossing the computers and going back to the woods. So much mean-spiritedness from the keyboard-warriors-- we clearly could learn a LOT from the folks in these photos
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